November 20, 2005
HELP: Why is cloning a PC drive so hard?
As a (former?) Mac user, it truly is amazing to me how hard some things are to do in Windows. For example, let’s say you have a 20 gig drive and you want to upgrade to a 120 gig drive - this is the exact situation I find myself at my parents place in NY right now.
On a Mac, this would be ultra easy. Remember that on a Mac, you can boot up from practically any device, and you can image any drive to any drive, and that you can tell the hardware which drive to boot off of.
So on a Mac, you would do this:
1. Buy and install new hard drive. Format.
2. Download Carbon Copy Cloner which is free/$5 donationware (or you could use the apps that are bundled with the Mac - CCC is just a 1 click wrapper around them.)
3. Run CCC to clone drive with about 4 clicks. (no need to install)
4. In control panels, tell the startup control panel to use the new drive.
5. Shutdown to remove old drive.
6. Reboot.
On my parents PC, this is what I’ve done so far:
1. Buy and install new hard drive. Format.
2. Download DriveImage XML (which a few folks at MS recommended because its free)
3. Install DriveImage XML
4. Run DriveImage XML and tell it to clone the C: to the D:. Go past some strange errors. This will take 5 hours.
5. Shutdown to remove old drive.
6. Reboot.
7. Oh… the PC says that there are no bootable volumes. [You might want to just hit page down now...]
8. Go through the drill of trying the permutations of jumper settings and cable positions. Makes no difference. Damn.
9. Wonders if it was so smart to clone a drive while booted from it. Reads up on BartPE.
10. Reinstall old hard drive.
11. Download Bart PE (which is fantastic tool for making self booting CDs)
12. Install Bart PE
13. Run Bart PE to create a bootable CD with Drive Image XML
14. Reboot using new CD and use Drive Image XML to clone drive. This time, it only takes 1 hour.
15. Remove old hard drive.
16. Reboot. Oh… the PC still says there are no bootable volumes.
17. Go read up on MBRs and get frustrated. Looks for a WinXP install CD to try and use the recovery console.
18. Oh wait… this is WinXP Pro and the CDs that came with this machine were restore only. (not that I could find them anyway.)
19. Find a WinXP Home CD and use that to launch the recovery console.
20. Try running fixboot.
21. Try running fixmbr.
22. Reboot and eject CD. Oh… the PC still says there are no bootable volumes.
23. Hm… maybe this mysterious MBR thing is still hosed. I know, I’ll start installing WinXP home up to the point that the hard drive can be booted and then reimage it with the old drive.
24. Start install WinXP home
25. When it reboots and boots from the hard drive, interrupt and repeat step 14.
26. Reboot. Oh the PC boots up from the new drive!!! Oh… wait… now it hangs at the welcome screen.
27. Connect the old drive and try rebooting.
28. The PC boots up all the way, though the old hard disk is getting quite the work out.
29. Hm… Drive Management says that the new drive is using the old drive as a Page file store
30. I know how to fix that- I’ll just tell Windows not to use a Page file.
31. Reboot… and now the PC hangs at the welcome screen no matter if the old drive is connected or not. ARGH.
32. Wait… how do I get the PC to boot from the old drive now to erase the new drive?? (panic!)
33. Oh I know, I’ll use the recovery console again. Put CD in the drive and reboot.
34. The PC reads the CD, and then decides that reading the hard drive is better. Boots into the hard drive where it hangs.
35. Remove new drive. PC boots fine into the old drive.
36. Now I’m screwed. I guess they’re stuck with their old drive.
I thought I was stupid, until I started searching around the internets for solutions to this problem - a lot of people run into this same problem where they clone/ghost a Windows drive, and it never boots up again!
Windows XP: XP refuses to boot after ghosting
I recently ghosted a machine and now it doesn’t want to boot.
Originally the OS was on a 3gb partition which quickly ran out of space. So I ghosted the partition, deleted the old partition, made a larger partition, and put the ghost back in. Now it won’t get past the screen that says “windows xp” in the middle, just before the login screen. I can move the mouse around all I want, and ctrl alt del does nothing. It does the same thing when I boot into safe mode. I used Ghost 8.0, so it’s not a compatability issue.
Why is microsoft torturing me? I’m stumped.
Hey that sounds like the problem I have! The answer? It requires a $9.99 monthly subscription to find out. Seriously.
Do you have the answer?








